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"Human Temple"
Transcribed by James Post
Kalev: So saying what you’re saying about being a part of the collective unconscious of creation, do you feel that the individual ego gets in the way of that?
Sifu Hill: You know, you look at Shaolin, and the idea of evolution as a human being, people really have a misconception of what it’s representing. True Shaolin is lost. Even the temples fell because of politics and people attaching to things. I think now we have an opportunity because the world has become so small. Through the internet, through being able to communicate, we have an opportunity now to really blossom and grow, to really experience what we can be. As an organization we can just evolve from that. But first, true Shaolin is really stripping away the ego. You know, it’s almost like getting naked in front of your partner.
When you think about sex on a different term, the vulnerability in sexual acts is amazing, because it’s two people at the most vulnerable point of their lives just coming together as a team. So if you’re not looking at it as a matter of lust or pleasure, the vulnerability of two people just showing themselves to one another in their most vulnerable part of their lives is amazing. Just stripping everything down and just being there takes on a different meaning. When you look at ego the same way, put it in its place, and just strip it down first confronting all the things that make you uncomfortable.
When you’re standing in front of a person you’re challenging or moving against, true sparring is not about beating the person. It’s about becoming the person. And that way you learn about wood element, you learn about earth element, you learn about fire element metaphorically speaking, you know, what they represent, and what they represent to you. That brings you into all the elements, which brings you into void and into endless creation. Because we are always recreating ourselves and that’s the goal. If you become happy in the sense of where you are, that’s a nice thing. That would be great, I would love that, you know, but it’s always about a journey. It’s always about recreating the self. Really understanding the self.
So yeah, I think ego, whatever that may be, has to be something that you confront and deal with. The human race is great because we’ve survived up to this point because of that. But now we’re at a point where we really need to break down those egos and move beyond the brain stem. And get more into the material and what the mind is and what it represents. To me we’re still in our survival mode and we have all this grey matter that we’re just not using. The brain is just this massive computer, and we have the ability to keep evolving energetically with that. If you look at the universe as a body, and we’re just an organism within the body of self discovery, then you don’t look at the universe as being something that’s just there, you look at everything as being alive. How you move through it and what level you come into understanding, it’s all part of the journey.
Even in the end, if it just ends, then who cares because it doesn’t even matter any more at that point. But it just doesn’t feel right. I don’t think that the universe is that poorly designed. Everything has a level and an awakening of understanding. To me we’re walking in this universe. You have the sun, the most powerful thing that we know. The sun goes, we go. Right? The sun doesn’t know it’s going to go. It doesn’t have a brain and know ok, I’m going to blow up now and kill everything, you know? The cool thing is that you know you’re going to go. As small and as insignificant as you are to that Sun, you have conscious awareness that I’m going to die. That’s cool. To have that level of understanding shows that your energy is alive; it’s a part of something. Everything, I believe, energetically and invisibly, is chi—is interconnected. It’s what you do with that is what allows you to explore that interconnectedness on all the different levels of understanding.
James: There’s a great metaphor of the human vessel being the center of an hourglass where you have all the time of the future in the weight of the sand above, but it’s all passing through you. So really in time aspects, it’s all future, present, and then whatever the mound at the bottom has. But also if you look at it as you’re the macro and microcosm of the universe, where the universe in all of its infinite expansion exists, but really it’s only you experiencing it. And then everything inside you, down to strings or whatever, is a fractal.
Sifu Hill: So why did the universe create you? Because you’re here to experience it. It’s here to experience itself. That to me is what god is. You coexist and are moving with it. You are learning about the god that’s within you. I don’t know because we’re limited with our knowledge to who and what we are and who we are within our society, within our realm. What we think possibly may be after existence. But I don’t have an opinion. Maybe death is nothing more than a perception of where you are and who you are at that time. And that coexistence may be. I don’t know. But I do celebrate that I don’t know. And I like that I don’t know. And therefore, it allows me to know. Because I know that I don’t know nothing. (laughs)
Kalev: and perception can always change.
Sifu Hill: Yeah. Perceptional reality. You’re always growing. Always experiencing, always moving. And that’s what I believe. You know, with the kung fu and the Shaolin and all this—it allows you to challenge it in a way, because there are no absolutes. There are no definites. Only challenge. And when you can really confront, build up enough character and personality to be able to challenge it and face the ramifications of your challenge, and not lie to yourself, then you’re also able to take another step beyond that one. You can’t just say oh, this is it, this is terrible, this sucks and that’s the end of it. No. That’s where you are now in your state of consciousness and your state of being. Now the challenge is moving through it. Some people come to a wall and they hit that wall and they sit down and that’s as far as they go. Some people see that wall and they climb over the wall. I don’t see a wall. All I see is something really little to step over. And when I reach it, it’s just a matter of going *takes tiny step over* and to me, death is the same representation. It’s not a wall. It’s just this little divider that you need to step over. ▪




